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I think this is one of the better Panda preworkouts. It gave me energy throughout my workout and also provided some mood elevation with little pumps. Nothing crazy. I’d say it’s a tier above a daily.
I liked version 8 better than V7. I felt that it had more energy and urgency than the prior version. Still did not feel as strong as the label suggests but had a good session and more than enough kick to go for a couple hours in the gym and to get things done post gym.
Energy was the star, didn’t get a lot for pumps but muscles were dry and hard versus swollen. Didn’t feel a lot of mood elevation past a sense of accomplishment post workout.
Scoop was fairly accurate, had to knock a little out to get proper dosage. My flavor was Ice Pop and it wasn’t awful, kind of like a sugar free, watered down Rocket Pop soda that went flat. Most of Apollon’s flavor have that sugar free taste before scientific advances that make fake sugar taste like real sugar instead of harsh artificial sweetness but I lived through the 90s-early 2000s days of supps where this would be a treat compared to that stuff.
I waited and got this on sale and at a cheaper price I can recommend it (in the $40’s). At full price I am glad I passed on it. Overall it isn’t bad but for me it’s not a go to if I want to kill a session.
Euphoria Galore!
Update on the pre after trying more times at full scoops.
This is perfect pre. Everything you want from a high end stim junkie pre with zero side effects.
The best way I can explain this is the Mood elevation, Euphoria of DMHA + DMAA power, endurance and focus
Mood elevation and euphoria really shines on it. The energy is high, not much strength output for me. It’s one of pre workouts that music dependent. If you play metal you gonna get aggressive mood elevation, drive and rage. If you play some dancing music you gonna feel happy. Also Great buzz before and during the workout.
Taste is very nice. I had cherry bomb. Pumps are lacking. Potent high stim illicit pre workout. Definitely no more than once a week pre.
Energy 5/5
Power 4/5
Mood elevation 5/5
Pumps 3/5
Flavor 5/5
NEW reformulated Stim Shady
Lately most of the companies reformulate their products and remove illicits. But Frenzy labz added DMHA on top of DMBA. I have tried older version and it was great experience but I think this is better. They improved it.
Experience: Starts with good medium to high beta alanine. And right away mood elevation builds up quickly. It’s a happy pre workout in the beginning. Having a good time. Music sounds better, you wanna dance. Mildly Euphoric. Great mood elevation is the star of the show . Feeling confident with weights, set after set, you keep going.
Then hour in.. happy vibes turn into aggressive energy and focus. I literally switched the music to metalcore, death metal from techno and stuff. Dare I say you become hyper- Focused. Dialed in. Alpha GPC, Lion’s mane and DMHA work in great synergy.
Post workout – no side effects. no drama, no appetite suppression. Clean as heck. Taste is very nice for high stim pre workout. Snowcone was sweet and enjoyable. Little bit gritty, it’s understandable with Glycerol in it.
Overall 9/10
Energy 9/10
Mood elevation 9/10
Power/strength output 7/10
Pumps 6/10
Taste 9/10
Okay energy for about an hour. Taste was meh. Definitely gave some appetite suppressing. Idk if it was this or random happening, but I didn’t feel tired at all, the night of taking this pre. Couldn’t sleep
Middle of the line preworkout. I expected far more pumps with the 10g of L-Citrulline, but it was just alright.
I do wish other PWOs would have more than 3200 mg of beta alanine like this one. You could feel them for sure.
Energy was slightly above average with little mood elevation. No spiked heart rate. Flavor was good. I believe it was the sour gummy, but not sure as it was a Ruesco sample. Hint of mango (I could be trippin).
Experience with new Irate was disappointing experience.
I took the pre at full 11 grams, Beta Alanine kicked in first, mid – to high level of tingles. Then quickly followed by mood elevation, warm fuzzy euphoric feeling, something was brewing in the background then it became apparent enough for illicit type of pre workout especially claiming DMAA. Then good focus, nootropic effects came in, music sounded good, start was very good, high level. But then, 30 minutes in, it kinda leveled out, stopped all together, I went back to “normal” calm state, during the actual workout it did not aid me in any way.
Maybe it was the batch or something, but I will give it another try, next week and might change my review.
Enjoy the Pumps bring unique label, different approach to pump o my formulas.
I like this a lot, you get everything you want from pump product. Well dosed ingredients, light on stomach, Vascular, dry, hard pumps. Amazing flavor. Pineapple Peace offering-The powder smells very nice nothing like pineapple, when you mix it smells like pineapple, but the color and taste is different than pineapple, but it’s sweet, nice and enjoyable. I like their design as well, very entertaining.
With L-Citruline being only at 4000 mg, makes this very stackable with other stim pre workout that already has 4-5 grams of L-Citruline, without overdoing it. AAKG is not my favorite ingredient on its own but it definitely works in synergy with Citruline and Agmatine. My favorite point in this formula is Grape seed extract at 500mg and Pine Bark extract at 300mg! Extremely well dosed. Only lacking ingredient is TMG(Betaine). Well thought out formula overall.
Pumps 5/5
Flavor/mixability 5/5
Overall 5/5
Very good high end daily pre.
It’s high energy, decent mood elevation with little aggressive drive and mid-to high urgency. At start I wanted to say it’s bunk but it’s not. It just takes some time to kick it, but when it does You won’t question its effects.
Definitely brings up the intensity in the gym. Working hard, focused on workout. Eyes on next set. It’s productive and keeps going, will aid you through the workout. I found it has some thermogenic effects too.
Pumps definitely lacking, taste is horrible. Had some stomach ache in the beginning, some reviewers experience the same too.
Overall 4/5
Energy/power 5/5
Mood elevation 3/5
Pumps 1/5
Taste 1/5
Basic pump preworkout. Should mix well with crack gold as they will add up to 10 g of L-Citrulline together. Flavor is the best I’ve ever had.
Basically an energy pill with some beta tingles and little pump. Tastes great but I wouldn’t buy a tub.
Super Happy Mood elevation Pre workout – Arez Titanium
At 2 scoops it’s a great pre workout. Star of the show is mood elevation and euphoric buzz. It’s Legit, you feel it every bit. Sadly it was discontinued. Label is very nice having Eria and DMHA at not so high doses yet working is great. 10 minutes in you feel betas mid to high. Then mood elevation comes in, music sounds good. It can be both aggressive and happy vibes depending on what music you are listening to. I’d describe this pre workout as a music – Limp Biz kit-Take a look around.
Flavor I had was Slime, it’s taste very very good. Pumps are okay. Good energy and endurance but not a lot of strength output.
It’s much similar to Zeus. It’s not that consistent. When it hits its amazing. And if you take it in the same week with other strong DMHA pre’s you are not gonna feel it.
Mood elevation – 5/5
Energy power -4/5
Pumps – 3/5
Flavor – 5/5
Overall 4/5
Alright daily. Energy didn’t spike the heart rate, but the focus was definitely there. Pumps were good as well.
Tasted good.
Absolutely amazing preworkout. It’s at the top of my list pending Excelsior’s shipment.
Had the same mouth watering sensation as crack gold but for less time. Also, less rushing heart rate, which is a huge plus for me.
Constant focused relaxed feeling with goosebumps.
The flavor was better than expected. It was blue, but a sample so I’m not sure which flavor it was.
Pumps were top tier. Great chest and back day.
I had a couple minutes of crash. Water water water. It wasn’t serious at all.
Good stim junkie daily. It’s not high end but packs a punch. Bodybuilder type of pre workout, as I would call it. It gives great energy, nice mood elevation and pumps are nice. It took some time to build . But it never slapped as you’d expect because it has alpha Yo in it. So it’s suits the people can’t handle too much alpha yo and it’s side effects. It’s a solid option to go train and get stuff done. I didn’t notice much focus, even tho 750mg of DMAE was there. That was kind of a let down for me.
Flavor I had was Still Sipping (Watermelon peach) was delicious. Kilo labs never had bad tasting product. Powder was clumped and was pretty bad. Hard as a rock, but it dissolves if you shake it long enough
Energy 4/5
Pumps 4/5
Mood elevation 3/5
Flavor 5/5
Overall 4/5
This is the one, hits so hard everytime and doesn’t taste bad at all, awesome mood elevation.
A very good pre workout, unfortunately bad crash and gave me a headache but got me going in the gym
Not a very favorable pre workout, horrible side effects including a crash and very little energy at all
Amazing pre-workout, slight crash afterward but manageable, and woke me up on a sleepy day. Definitely an awesome one
Solid pre workout, no side effects and mostly woke me up from the dead.
This is a true 40 serving hard hitting high stim pre workout. 1 scoop is more than enough.
15 mg Yo-yo blend is so potent and strong that, it might be too much for many. Even hardcore reviewers like TJ said he takes it at 1.2 scoop. I mean you can take it at 2 scoops and handle it but you can get all the benefit from lower dose, minus side effects. If you love alpha Yo and high energy pre workouts, this is a must. I ordered a sample of it on Ruesco and will definitely get myself a whole tub. Great experience without illicit/exotic ingredients. I’d say this is strongest non-DMHA pre workout at the moment.
Energy/power 5/5 (you feel extremely strong on it, pushing PRS)
Mood elevation 4/5 (aggressive mood elevation, battle driven)
Pumps 5/5 (you don’t need to stack anything on top of it, 3d pump breakthrough is going to give you greatest pumps)
Flavor 3/5 (I had dragonfruit flavor, it’s soapy and has chemicals aftertaste but it’s doable)
Overall 5/5 Highly Recommended
Entry level stim junkie pre workout.
The experience is not overwhelming. Just right. Takes time to build up and kick in, and it happens very subtle. Especially if you are already training. L-theanine is something that I’m sensitive to and don’t like the experience. Even in wildfire L-theanine made me too calm and collected. Same here. Mid Mood elevation and good focus.
Pumps surprisingly are very good. I had sample from Ruesco, flavor was Red Smash, it’s taste very nice.
Overall good pre if you want smooth nice experience start for stim junkie pres. I liked low caffeine point in the formula and added nitrorocket(Arugula extract for pumps)
P.i.m.p is a straight up pure pump formula. No nootropics just straight pumps. This is what I use to add to my higher stim pre workouts that don’t have a lot of pump ingredients. This pre mixes well but tastes disgusting. Not the worst tasting ever but I have to chug it anytime I use it. Very vascular pumps, more of a “wet” pump versus a dry pump. Overall very solid pure non stim pump pre workout that can be used alone or added with any other high stim pre.
Sicario came very clumpy and had no silica packet inside. This is probably due to the ingredients that cause clumping such as the glycerol. I had really good leg pumps with this and the beta alanine tingles were there, not super strong but was still noticeable. The flavor on this was awful, mixed well but was super chalky. I mainly take non stim for workouts except for my DMHA once per week and so I’ve been using this as a daily driver. The focus on it isn’t intense but definitely plays in with intentions during reps.
Zeus was my very first DMHA experience. Have built up to a complete 1 scoop. The taste is okay, there is a chemical aftertaste at the end. Mixability is good and isn’t super chalky. The first time I ran this, I was so high, the illicit buzz was out of this world. Music sounded so good and my mood was really good. I’ve taken it a couple of more times ever since and a few other DMHA pres and would say the pumps on Zeus is okay, pairing it with another pump pre will help a lot. Overall, I would recommend this pre for first time DMHA users who want to jump into the high stim pre workouts. Start off with half a scoop!
Very clean energy, been running it with a 3/4 scoop instead of a full serving. Taste was not bad at all very palatable and smooth mixing. Slight chemical taste at the end but I feel like it’s a similar taste to all DMHA pre workouts. Pumps were nice and the beta alanine tingles were through the roof. Pp tingles on this thing made me feel like what GGH was having during his reviews. Mood elevation was okay in the sense I still had euphoria and my music was sounding real good but definitely the energy on this preworkout was the best. Would definitely buy it again.
Excelsior kicked in fast, within about 15-20 minutes of taking it. Mixed well, tasted good and wasn’t too chalky either. I had laser focus and no side effects aside from sweating more than usual. I would the pumps on this wasn’t that great, I paired it with a pump formula like p.i.m.p . My overall focus and energy was through the roof. Feels similar to adderall, but I didn’t have teeth grinding or super elevated heart rates. No crash either from the pre. Euphoria was alright, music did sound slightly better but I was too busy concentrating on my next sets/reps.
Average daily pre. Alright energy and pumps. Tasted amazing.
Egde of İnsanity-High Stim Hard hitter Alpha Yo based pre workout.
It’s not a beginner pre workout at full service. It’s a slapper. The more you use it the more you will love it. It will get you flying in the gym. Set after set. Mentally always ready to crush the workout. Energy is high end. Focus is great. I didn’t notice a lotta strength out on it, but it’s a good intensifier for hard gym sessions to help push extra reps and sets. Even in fatiguing high intensity training I didn’t feel as tired I normally would feel. Post workout still stays, and you are on one. You feel warm fuzzy feelings, the alpha yo buzz, aggressive mood elevation. Metal music goes better for this experience. I would name this pre after song- Slipknot – The Devil in I.
It will keep you hyped up for hours. I had the version where it does not have gaba. So I will try out that version. I think I will give it overall 5/5.
Overall 4/5
Energy 5/5
Strength output 3/5
Pumps 4/5
Flavor 5/5 Spiked punch. Amazing flavor.
Took it both by itself and with Zeus. By itself the flavor was horrendous. But stacked with Zeus made it much better surprisingly. I assume it works well with an acidic preworkout. Insane pumps. Perfect for stacking.
Another High stim, high energy Dark Labs classic. DMHA pre workout.
Experience: Beta Alanine tingles – strong. Energy kicks in strong and fast. Urgency is apparent, Not jittery, collected and focused, just feeling good. Alpha Yo nose runs and aggression.You will feel strong on this one, weights feel light. Great focus and good mood elevation. Stacked formula. OYou don’t get tired or fatigued. Post workout feel good. Pumps are mid, you can add pump pills. Flavor is Peachy Witchy. It’s okay.
Overall 9/10. Reliable option to train hard, to push limits.
Really good preworkout. I’d say is comparable to their more premium Crack Gold, but Crack Gold just lasted much longer, too long honestly. Crack OG for the price and for a solid 2-4hr heavy workout is perfect. Only problem I’ve had with both was dry mouth, even though I drank over a gallon of water through my workout.
Friend of mine bought it to try and gave me 1.5 scoops, overall it felt like an intermediate level preworkout, disappointing, especially for the price.
Energy and focus is there but not even close to other Pre-Workouts, this is very similar to Cali Mamba. Both very disappointing because I really wanted to like them and a lot of hype ESPECIALLY Zeus.
Overall decent Pre-Workout but wouldn’t recommend it over other much better good ones
Very disappointed at Mamba, got a sample to try from Ruesco since I was extremely happy with Wild Fire and wanted to try a slight weaker version without Yohimbe.
Don’t get me wrong, it gives focus and strength but there are much better for the same price. I’d much rather pay a little more for Wild Fire which is miles ahead of Mamba.
Overall decent Pre-workout but not worth it for me and I really wanted to like it.
This is an awesome daily, with great pumps and an INCREDIBLE flavor. Decent mood elevation and energy, nothing too crazy.
Your average DMHA pre workout with good mood elevation and a horrible crash after. Decent flavor for the formula and gives a sense of happiness.
I experienced awful headaches multiple times, good energy and pumps but not worth the side effects.
Another insanely strong pre-workout, the energy is ridiculous. Gave me a sense of survival mode, insane pumps, and bad flavor.
Probably the strongest pre I’ve ever used, the energy is insane, but put me in survival mode instead of elevating my mood. Pumps are so-so and flavor is bad. For stim junkies only!