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Does what it is supposed to do providing great pump. Taste was not the best. Kinda hard to get down.
Good daily driver for pretty much anyone
Beta alanine and mood elevation comes in fast and keeps going for a while. It delivered some energy. Nothing too serious, just enough for you to workout when you trying to take some lower stim options between high stim pres.
Flavor was nice, nothing too fancy, expecting than a daily driver pre workout MUST taste good, it’s like mandatory nowadays. Pumps are good. Better than nothing
Probably the best non-illicit stick I’ve had. Great energy and focus with good pumps. I had watermelon candy and it tasted fairly similar to Bloodbath watermelon, not the best but okay.
Would definitely buy a tub if I had to step away illicit pres.
This is the best flame so far!!! this latest batch dropped when the new primal dropped and it’s nice and euphoric and illicit as heck. Lasts for hours. Can lift heavier. Music sounds amazing. Much better sourced goodies in this one!
Good back ground mood elevation. Star of the show is definitely the DMBA like illicit highness with the physical energy being in the driver seat! You feel like an animal on the stuff!
As illicit as it comes. Good clean dark labs DMHA. Super sick mood elevation and euphoria. Great physical energy too. Both effects lasts hours. Just tapers off
Solid daily driver with well sourced manufacturing. Would recommend to someone trying to step onto the realm of real pre workouts from Bucked up or C4. Smooth and the pumps are nasty
This product is super solid! I always leave with my upper body way bigger than when I entered the gym! That glycerol dose is probably the highest I’ve ever had! Very versatile and stackable to all products. Recommend
Solid flavor. Smooth. Crazy vascular pumps from the citrulline. Glycerol steals the show especially if you do arms on this! Love the nootropics for focus. Honestly for the label these pumps are some of my favorite
Better than expected. Alright all the way around. Nothing great.
Wildfire’s little brother is different but it’s pretty good.
It kicks in fast with beta alanine and energy flow. You feel, it starts brewing in the background right away. Mood elevation is there, you become more alert and focused. Most noticeable feature is for me was the urgency. It’s not a slapper type of urgency, that’s is aggressive and commands to get go like alpha yo based pres, but it’s just enough to go to the gym and kill it. Music sounds better, you are in the zone. Recovery periods between sets are short af. It’s high energy.
It’s different than Wildfire, even tho labels are close. Wildfire didn’t gave me mood elevation, just calm collected focus and tons of strength and endurance. This one tho, delivers the mood elevation and urgency, but not much noticeable strength output or endurance. I trained hard and the fatigue did catch up. It’s for short and hard workouts only in my opinion. Overall was good experience. Did not disappoint and did not surprised too.
Pumps were okay. Flavor I had was Strawberry Watermelon. It is bad. Taste like soap. It isn’t the worst tho
Post workout you feel that DMHA/DMAA dry mouth feel. Besides that, there are no side effects
Energy – 4/5
Strength output 3/5
Mood elevation 4.5/5
Pumps 3/5
Taste 1/5
Overall 4/5
Very close behind crack gold in my opinion. Gave amazing energy and mood elevation.
I believe this may be the best tasting dark labs pre I’ve had. (I got more blueberry than grape, may be trippin)
I took this while extremely tired and it still came through and provided a great workout.
Drink that water.
Waited a very long time to try this one after coming out.Finally pulled the trigger on nutricartel and so glad I did. If you like juiced you will like this. This is a similar focus to juiced.However I feel like it’s an even more intense focus than juiced. And I’ve only taken an 8 gram scoop and the recommended is 10 grams. I didn’t feel any beta tingles at all.For the first 15-20 minutes you really don’t feel much.Maybe some caffiene.But be patient.This takes a while to kick in.But once it does you will know.The focus comes in with a serious vengeance. You are so dialed in when pushing weight it’s unbelievable. The focus lasts the whole workout and probably a few more hours after that.Definitely don’t take later on in the day or you won’t sleep.It definitely affects your sleep. I did notice that the next day after consuming that I definitely didn’t feel right.I felt drained and my brain felt foggy.Definitely a once or twice a month hitter.I got the citrus punch flavor and I’ve also paired it with a pump formula.I didn’t experience any heart racing feeling like others have described but that is probably due to the pump formula so I highly recommend getting one if you don’t have one
Very similar to the normal woke af. Okay daily with okay energy, but nothing much else. Good gateway pre.
Juicy big pumps
Sicario Swole is very versatile pump formula that can be added to any pre workout. I take it separately before my pre workout, 30-40 minutes till training. Pumps are watery Glycerol pumps. Not my personal type of pumps, where you can’t feel it, on contractions of muscles and then being and rock solid, and veiny, like other standards pump formulas does. Great choice to stack with pre workouts that already has enough L-Citruline.
Xtremis Cartel is one my favorite brands where you can get most bang for your buck. 64/32 serving is a great value, since most Glycerol products are half of it 32/16.
Flavor I have is peach rings. You dilute in some water and it’s very delicious.
Better than I thought it’d be. Very good focus around 20 minutes after ingesting. Slight energy boost. These last for about 1.5 hours then nothing. Tasted good. Looking forward to hardcore.
This pre needs little introduction.
A very mediocre pre overall but a solid choice for a beginner or someone wanting to cycle off heavy stim pres. Whenever you start mass producing something it gets ruined most of the time and the same happened with this pre here. Big part of it’s selling point were the unique designs and very very unique flavors, but after going mainstream they even stopped doing that so I see very very little reason for anyone to go back to this pre.
It still gets a 5 star flavor rating from me for the good ol’ days. (And because I’ve tried over 20 of their flavors and loved most of them)
This is a solid daily-driver choice from Rich Piana. It says stim crazy pre workout but it’s far from that. Feels pretty smooth for a 400mg coffeine pre. The focus is neither there nor here and unfortunately the pumps here are non existent. Luckily it’s 30 servings per tub and very affordable so since it’s a stim based formula with some focus in it, stacking it with a pump formula is a must.
The flavor is very palatable and refreshing.
Max doesn’t stand here for no reason. This IS the strongest Specimen formula ever made
This is solely a pure energy and focus formula and it does it job beautifuly. Don’t expect any pump on this, the sprinkle of nitrates won’t do s***. Energy and focus is fast acting and lasts for a while. The 3 mg of alpha yohimbine is there and you can really feel it so stay away from 2 scoops unless you are used to alpha yo.
This was a very pleasurable and nice pre for me as I stacked it with pump formulas most of the time. It’s a shame Glaxon went under.
The best from Insane Labz. Smoother but longer lasting energy than Hellboy. The only Psychotic with decent pumps but even this falls short of a solid pump formula. I wouldnt really call this a daily pre since you can build a tolerance for stims and this is mostly based on said stims. Still the pre is very light and very palatable and I find it’s most useful to me when I am on the go and can take it with me since the tub is small and you can mix it with little water.
I am afraid that this is a caffeine and alpha yo stim bomb for there couldn’t be much else in the 5 gram scoop you get. Fortunately apart from the strong alpha yo the energy is not over the top and lasts a while. There is no pump or strength in this pre but its a pure, raw energy experience. Fires you up nicely and keeps you fired for a while. More of a fast paced experience and really shines in activities where you move a lot.
A very good all around pre workout. This is something I can see myself using regularly if not for the high price tag. But then again name sells brands.
Very nice pumps, smooth energy, gets you motivated without impacting your mood. In short this is a very healthy and productive pre. The US version seems to be a bit stronger on the energy side but there is minimum difference to notice if any.
Awesome flavors both the Peach Bum and Blackberry Lemon, but I do prefer the Peach as it’s a bit lighter and sweeter.
The newer versions seems to be no – pumps, high stim pres while the one I had (with the black top on) was low/medium stim with some ok pumps. Nothing out of this world. You’d have to double scoop this to get some good effects out of which cuts down the servings to 17.5.
Overall I’d get Psychotic Gold over this any day of the week as it is higher stim and still has some really good pumps. At least the flavor was very nice, very light.
An awesome pre if you can get it on a sale, otherwise there are much better pre workouts out there for the same price point. I got a couple of these for my friends and myself at Bucked Up (they were having a huge 4th of July sale) so if you can grab it at a similar occasion do it.
Beta alanine tingles far outshine anything else here. They start out strong and last a while. The energy lasts a bit longer than on WOKE AF, didn’t feel much alpha yohimbine effects, but the pumps were pretty solid.
One thing Bucked Up does the best is flavor their pre workouts, you can’t go wrong with any of their choices.
Super underdosed. I recommend it as a beginner’s pre over the C4. If you can get WOKE AF over this do it. Apart from some mediocre pumps this is as effective as a monster energy can. Will wake you up if you feel sluggish but that’s about it. Been sitting at the bottom of my drawer for a while now I sometimes even forget I have it, might double scoop it just to use it up.
Koala Freak Aussie Fruit (get Pina Koala if you are deciding between these two, it’s better) is damn delicious tho and it’s at least cheaper that an energy drink.
So basically this is the same pre as the new Total War but with nitrates. Not gonna explain much since it’s the same pre workout just with 50% better pumps. My label is a bit different since I bought this in the EU which might be different from the US one. They are basically the same just without fat burning properties.
The flavor was solid as with all Total War pres.
Got this from a local retail shop back in 2020.
It was a solid choice back then for a intermediate pre. Very good all around pre workout, very consistent effects and you you’d be surprised how good the pumps are without too many ingredients in it. Nothing mood elevating or insane in it but still enough to get you in the “zone” for a good workout.
The flavors are insanely good and the Baja Burst RTD bottles are the best RTD drinks I’ve ever tasted, it’s a shame the shops started carrying Ryse some time ago.
An unexpected but welcome surprise for me. I at first bought this as a fat burner for my significant other to use. As it turns out even at half dose it was too much for her as the effects lasted too long.
So I said what the hell let me try it. Man did I have a blast on this. I ended up using it thruought the summer so much I was bummed out I couldn’t use it more than twice a week without building up a tolerance.
There is no pump on this, no tunnel vision, no focus, just insane amounts of energy and mood elevation. Perfect for long cardio workouts or endurance/MMA workouts. It really makes you sweat and the insane physical energy helps you push trough workouts harder and for longer helping you burn more energy as a result.
This is perhaps my favorite Dark Labs supplement I’ve used so far and the one I’ve used the most. Oh and the flavor aint too bad either, it’s a bit spicy-peppery but maybe that’s what I like about it, kinda gets you in an irritable fat burning mood.
This is probably the second strongest pre workout I’ve used so far, and am I glad I started out with a half dose.
Even at half dose I had insane aggressive energy and motivation right at the start, 15 minutes in. Awesome laser focus and willpower to crush the weights for a heavy af workout. The problem comes when I tried a full dose a week later. I don’t think it’s the high amount of caffeine or alpha yo since I am very tolerant to both but it took me a good hour and a half after taking it just to calm myself down after feeling anxious a the start of the workout. I could almost feel my heart beating in my chest. It was very hard to focus on your muscles when you are scared that your heart might pop out.
Verdict: 1 scoop is perfect, 2 scoops is too much unless you have a built up tolerance. Also just chug down the drink, the flavor is tolerable but not something I would sip on.
An awesome choice for a daily use pre workout.
For the amount you can get this on the official dark labs site (a bonus is they are based in both Poland and USA so they ship everywhere) you get 30 servings of a very balanced out pre workout which is very rare these days.
Very strong beta alanine right out of the bat, fast energy and focus, very, very nice pumps, there is nothing I’d add to this pre workout really without making it over the top. A bit less caffeine for a daily pre would be desirable but with the profile list you get at this price point this far beats any other pre out there by a mile.
The flavor isn’t as bad as some other Dark Labs pres but it’s not something I look forward to, and it doesn’t help I really dislike grape (it was all they had left in stock).
My oh my was I not ready for this one.
This is my first entry into Dark Labs and wanting to try something strong without any illicits in it I thought this would be a solid start. Boy was I wrong.
Thinking it was not a super high stim pre I thought I’d start with the full dose (double scoop) and man was I in for a ride. 10 minutes in I got hit by such an insane surge of energy I had to dial down a bit and wait it out to smooth out. I really couldn’t focus for the first 30 minutes but after a while the nootropics kicked in and I went into a tunnel vision I did not expect from a non-DMHA pre.
On label you wouldn’t think it’s that strong but man this pre SLAPS. Wouldn’t use it more than once a week tho lest I get high stim tolerance.
Also the flavor leaves a bit to be desired but I hear that’s the case with all Dark Labs sups so I didn’t expect much to begin with. (And I love Cherry Lime but this was just eugh)
Very very very disappointed in my 07/26 Excelsior. I’ve tried it twice now, and it has ruined 2 chest and back days for me.
To me, this isn’t a preworkout. It is more suited for a 6 hour long standardized test, marathon, or hike. It gives me no energy until about 2.5-3 hours after ingesting and even then, it’s very slight. You could convince me that this is just 100 mg of caffeine with adderall. Tastes good. Straight nootropic. Good focus and alright mood elevation, but the weights feel heavier.
It has helped me learn that I lean toward more aggressive preworkouts. So if that’s you, l’d save my money from this block of fool’s gold.
I had a couple of samples left from when this very first came out… I heard lots of horror stories but maybe because they were samples, they were dressed more appropriately for my liking.
Not sure but I have heard horror stories. Overall this is pretty smooth, a decent ride with some decent mood elevation. The 200mg of DMHA seems reasonably well sourced, okay head buzz that helped with motivation. I was feeling pretty good in the gym but I went in with expectations that this was gonna be a heart stopper.
It was good but not really what I was bracing for. I was bracing for a terrible time that I figured I would have to force myself through. Expectations were exceeded by going in with low expectations. This is an overall pretty decent and motivating pre workout. I personally will not buy the tub but just because I have so many other preworkout choices with DMHA. Personally I prefer Primal Edition by crack if I’m comparing DMHA pre workouts.
Expiration date is 07/26
I got this from Ruesco when the samples went live. I’ve been wanting to try this for a few reasons. 1). It’s super expensive 2). The supposed secret ingredient.
As an aside, I take ritalin so I’m not super sensitive to illicit, rc, or rx stims. This didn’t really hit for me until I went running, once I found my music I was digging it… I ended up making this workout a run and ran about 7 miles when I usually run 5. I have and sometimes do run up to 8 or 10 miles but not this time. 7 miles was enough… this seems like an effective drug for cardio, whatever it is. Focus is sharp, music sounds great, and I was motivated to run harder and faster than I normally do.
Although you would think for the price it would be a bit more magical. It is not. Do not go into this one thinking it’s gonna enhance you, make anything lighter/easier, just go into it thinking “I’m gonna have a good time working out.”
Although I only had the one scoop, I felt like I could have gotten away with using two scoops. It’s not worth the price but it is worth the experience!
Samples at Ruesco go for $8 each, less when you buy more. It’s worth a sample for sure. I’d be interested to see how this compares to other expiration dates because I’ve heard of people having better experiences with different exp dates.
Flavor is great though, tasted like Hawaiian Punch!
This is a very well designed pump formula that I typically use to pair with a high stim pre workout. It has a lite nootropic boost so it’s okay to take this one if you lift in the evening without it affecting your sleep too much. This one is heavy on the stomach, I like to give it about 45 minutes to settle before a workout. The flavor is cherry pop which is a really nice flavor. I mixed one scoop of this straight into a tiger’s blood flavored preworkout and made a really nice cocktail that got me stimmed and shredded. This one is fun but I prefer it as something to pair with another preworkout rather than something to use on its own.
Much like it’s brother, El Jefe, Guerilla hits hard. I prefer this one at a 2 scoop measure because it feels lighter than el Jefe but what it lacks in that high stim category is not very much. This one has 400mg of theobromine which hits nicely but the pump formula is what sets this one aside from El Jefe original. Great pumps, my body feels full while lifting. Amazing mind muscle connection, light mood elevation, good focus with the nootropics blend intact.
Great dosage of the DMAE and Alpha GPC, the pump formula probably is what makes this a bit heavy on the stomach. My only complaint. Blueberry lemonade is the flavor which is actually really nice. Not chalky or medicinal tasting at all. Amazing pre workout!
Excellent daily driver that is high stim, I use this more than once a week but at a 1 scoop dose. It has the 1-2 scoops ratio, I was first trying with 2 scoops but found that to be a bit heavy. This one will weigh in on your stomach or at least it does for me. 1-1.5 scoops is about right for me to use as a daily driver or as a buffer in between my high stim workouts.
Great pump formula already inside but when I do one scoop, I like to pair with a scoop of sicario. The combo together is even tougher on the stomach so I usually give it about 45 minutes before my workout to settle. Excellent energy, the theobromine at 500mg with 2 scoops seems to be the star of the show, ahead of the caffeine. The DMAE syncs up nicely for great focus and has incredible synergy with the theobromine and caffeine.
The flavor I have is “cherry pop” which I may have gotten lucky with because I’ve heard not so nice things about the other flavors. Cherry pop is decent and is a full bodied flavor, quite honestly one of the best tasting pre workouts I’ve had.
Good stim free formula. Taste is very nice. A lil gritty texture while drinking, probably due to Glycerol.
I didn’t feel the nootropic effects pn or focus on it, because without combining with Caffeine I can’t feel extra Focus. But mind muscle connection was nice. It’s middle of the road pump formula meaning you can’t stack it with anything.
Pumps are tight, not watery surprisingly.
Flavor I have is Mermaid kisses like rainbow candy, sweet, nice, enjoyable
This has become one of my favorite products. It’s fun to toy with these. It takes 3 caps to get that heavy buzz, which to me feels like a 200 to 250mg dose. Even though they don’t feel as strong as the ingredients suggest. I can add one to a daily preworkout and it majorly boost my motivation. Which I’m starting to like. Sometimes I want that head buzz to go away, but with high doses unfortunately you’re stuck with it. One cap will make me push just a little but harder with no lingering dmha buzz. Two will spice it up a notch more and three provides a longer lasting effect which sometimes I’m okay with and sometimes I’m not.
This to me feels more like “geranium” than dmha. Comparing to crack purple, I’d say maybe 70 to 80mg of it. It’s very smooth, but energizing. The star of the show to me is, the focus and good mood it puts you in. I’ve enjoyed this as an alternative to crack purple since it is going away. Pumps are the best, but they are there. Probably because of the focus and work your putting in.