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İllicit high energy stim junkie pre workout. Has the same feeling like Juiced. High level of focus and strength output is the star of the show. And for me that was about it. No beta alanine tingles, 5 minutes in clarity in vision starts to improve, you feel more focused. Something brewing in background. This makes you ready for hard gym session.No mood elevation or euphoria. Just strengt output, focus, dialed in, getting work done. Just like Flame v3 It only gets more intense if you do.
Flavor I had was Blue raspberry. Tolerable.
It comes with some side effects that you might expect from illicit pre.
Not a lot of Pumps. You can pair with pump formula, which makes the experience a lil more smoother, just like High Stim Ace recommends. Full 10 grams dose is too much. 3/4 scoop is good spot to start.
Overall for me personally once a month pre workout when you wanna push through plateaus.
This is my second favorite PWO, close behind Zeus. Taste is meh. This gave me the highest heart rate spike of any I’ve taken prior. That paired with constant mouth watering for around 30 minutes were the only 2 negatives.
The salivating was the kind you get before you throw up, so that kind of spooked me. But don’t worry just drink plenty of water.
After around 1.5 – 2 hours the heart rate settled. Around 3 hours after ingesting while sitting on my couch, I began to feel a floating sensation. Similar to Zeus except I find Zeus’ more relaxing.
All in all amazing focus and energy that gave me one of the best chest and back days possible. Pumps were mediocre. Very much looking forward to pairing this with Bloodbath for a better pump, which also should decrease the heart rate spike. That combo sounds out of this world.
I’ve been living off these sample packs purchased directly from the distributor for about a month now and decided that this one is in my top three for best daily pre-workouts. You can get the sample pouches that are double scoops at 3x for $6 on the website. I bought 4 packs of those, they range in flavors. The one I seem to tolerate the most is peach gummy and kinda does taste like peach gummy. Pumps are decent with 9000mg of 2:1 citrulline malate, beta alanine is at 3200mg and betaine anhydrous sits at 2500mg. Caffeine is a decent 350mg with 200mg of theobromine. Dendbromium is in here to take up 100mg of space for no reason. Alpha gpc and l-tyrosine do well together and with 100mg of L-dopa. This one is good to take for an early morning at the gym, it’s not insane or overpowering in anything or in any way. Just a moderately balanced really decent daily driver with decent mood elevation with some pumps that gets you lifting a bit extra.
The only disappointment that comes with this is that they sneak in a gram and a half of creatine. Which I guess if you’re just taking maintenance doses is okay but otherwise I can’t figure out what it is in there for except to take up space at that dose. Personally, I would prefer to take my creatine separately but that’s me.
Great energy and as a bonus, the it has two types of caffeine. Citrate for the fast acting and standard anyhydrous. I dig the dosing of the caffeine because it’s not an absurd amount like you get with other high stim pre workouts. This has legit DMAA listed as 2 amino 4 methylhexane and is decently sourced. At 120mg you can tell they picked this to be star of the show and it is. Mood elevation is top notch, I was rocking out to manowar in the gym extra hard, singing along and lifting.
The flavor is surprisingly incredible! I got blue raspberry slushy and it does surprisingly taste like a blue raspberry slushy (I don’t think blue raspberries exist but it’s nice to imagine what it tastes like through this blend).
This is still the best product Dark Labs had ever put out. It’s so good and so intense that it is sadly, no longer available. Insane focus, energy, and crazy mood increase! My first experience with this one had me hitting my max on squats and then I found myself exploding with another 5 reps. This is if pre-workout supplements were an art form. The flavor I have is not terrible, kinda balanced between medicine and whatever it was that they used to cover up the flavor. If you’re taking this, it’s for the 120mg of DMAA not whatever it is they’re masking it with!
One of my favorite pre-workouts that is in my rotation. This is one of those preworkouts where even the flavor slaps, I got tiger’s blood (dream land). It tastes like coconut water, no chemical or medicine after taste. The effects are great! It will have you floating around the gym, great mood elevation, the euphoria is kinda in the background… I did notice I feel like I want to talk to people at the gym. The only downside to this one is the DMBA makes it difficult to take more than once per week max. If the effects were there I would run it twice per week but I try to keep it at every ten days.
From what I understand, I have a very welcoming crash afterwards. It’s welcomed because after an hour plus of heavy lifting and setting PRs I feel like I need a nap so I keep it for the weekends.
I was drawn in by the obviously promised “100mg of geranium” but the proprietary blend makes it difficult to tell what you’re actually taking in besides the other listed dosage of 350mg caffeine anhydrous. This stuff has a place for people wanting to experiment with the stim junkie experience, without diving head first into some crazy stuff like crack. It claims to have juglans regia but difficult to say how much… since it is a proprietary blend.
Focus is okay, energy is okay, it’s an all around mid experience. I was definitely hoping for more, especially with the thought that it has 100mg of DMAA in it. If it has any DMAA in it, it sits well below 100mg. The flavor I got was sour symbiote… probably the best part about this package. This one over promises and under delivers, sadly. So much promise but it’s just not there.
My fav pre workout powder ,dmaa pre’s are to stimulating for me ,Zeus hits me with energy ,focus and decent pumps but the main attraction for me is the euphoria i get from it ,I use this three days on one day off and its never let me down
Flavor is little bit ruff but not to bad to where I can tolerate it ….if you want a hella euphoric pre this is the one !!!
This was my first time trying any dark labs product and I was not let down. Great cycle off pre for the illicit Stims.It almost feels borderline illicit. First thing you feel is the betas for a solid 15-20 minutes. Then you get this wave of energy that almost feels like it is going to get your heart rate way to high and feel uncomfortable but it never quite gets there.You definitely feel the alpha yo and your heart rate is up but it is just right. After about 45 minutes the alpha yo feeling kinda subsided and I was left with this clear headed focus. I’d have to say this pre gave me the best focus of any non illicit pre that I have ever had. You will feel this energy for a good 2 hours after your workout.Didnt get any crash or any side effects.Definitely going to be purchasing more of this. For the price with a discount code on nutricartel and 30 servings.You literally cannot beat this bargain. If you care about flavor you shouldn’t have anything to worry about.Its a very light flavor and very easy on your stomach.Mixes up well too.
Simple, yet hard hitting, high energy pre workout. Caffeine +Alpha Yo Bomb!
It’s one of my go to pre workouts when I’m looking for heavy workout sessions when I need to hit PR’s, aggression, high energy, short and sweet. It kicks in relatively fast. I’d say, energy and urgency kicks in, along with beta alanine at the same time. It’s a proprietary blend, but who cares when it works, with just lil 5 grams scoop. It will wake you out of the dead, turn you into work horse. No death feeling, no alpha yo nose runs or side effects for me.
Flavor I have is fruit punch. It’s nice. No chemical after taste or bitterness. It’s 35 servings and for 34$. Best bang for your buck. It’s a solid choice for who likes high stim pre workout and Alpha Yohimbine.
My favorite go to pump product. Both for training non-stim and stacking it with stim pre workouts.
Ingredients are super simple ans well dosed. Pumps are very solid on this one. Nootropic effects adds on pre workouts you are stacking with. On its own nootropics support good muscle mind connection which translates to juicy pumps
Flavor I have is Sour Gummy and it taste amazing, mixes very well, easy and light on stomach. In fact it also helps to mask bad taste of stim only pre workouts when stacking, for example Flame v3
I had Goblin Juice edition. I took fun 2 scoop serving.
Overall wasn’t impressed by it. I believe it was due to L-theanine that was in it. I was very calm and collected through out the workout. Energy was okay. Beta alanine was strong. Taste is very good.
I had very different/weird experience that felt like nothing else with other high stim pre workouts. It was my first time experience with pre workout that has L-theanine. Had a sample of Wildfire from Ruesco. Took the drink, takes me 30 minutes to be in the gym and start the workout. Low to medium beta alanine. Euphoric warmth comes and goes in 15 minutes or so. I didn’t experience any aggression, mood elevation or intense focus. I was calm and collected. Just focused on workout. I had heavy push day, and Strength output was there! It Elevated my strength and power like up to 120%, my usual heavy weights felt light, even like a joke, hit PR’s on top of PR’s with zero aggression, it was like Chaotic Rage but minus aggression or drama. I didn’t get tired or fatigued from all 8-9 RPE, 0 rir sets. I didn’t feel any pain on this one. Even though before workout I had some shoulder discomfort. I’m not mad about the experience. But I assume it was all due to L-theanine and how I reacted to it
This was not as good as I expected it to be based on the label.The pumps are there but nothing crazy. At the 2 scoop dose it gets my heart rate up to a slightly uncomfortable level. So I did bring my dosage down to about 1 3/4 scoop.I thought you would get a little bit of a buzz from the Eria but I really don’t feel it. I think there are much better pres out there for what you are spending on this that will give you much better pumps and mood elevation. The flavor is probably the best part.Green Goblin juice is delicious.I can’t put my finger on what to compare it to but I’ve never tasted a pre even close to this flavor.
Probably my favorite high Stim pre that I have tried.The first time I took this pre I really did not like it.I took 10 grams instead of the 20 gram suggested serving size. I definitely felt the some slight illicitness on the 10 grams but I felt very sweaty and weak. Could have been anxiety from hearing about all the hype about this pre.The 2nd time I took it at 13 grams and the I had a totally different experience.It hit me about 20 minutes in.The main star of the show is this unique type of focus that sets in.And there is something in here that has you flying.You also get this mood elevation with the focus. It’s definitely more than DMHA in this.At least the tub I have. I took it at 15 grams the last time I took it and the experience was even more intense in a good way.Going to try it at the full 20 grams at some point.But definitely start at 10-13 grams even if you think you are a Stim junky.I will say that this pre makes you very very thirsty m.I just kept drinking water the whole day.And I do feel side effects the day after taking.You definitely don’t sleep that well and you just feel mentally drained the day after consumption.So keep that in mind before taking this. Get this while it’s still around cause it’s a pre that is so unique
Top tier daily pre workout. No side effects, you Feel good on it, because it delivers Good mood in the gym. Dancy tippy type of Pre
Workout feels nice to do. It’s fun pre workout . No drama. Fast recovery from hard, heavy sets..Not getting tired or fatigued Cardiovascular or mentally. I have Forbidden Fruit flavor, which is apple and its amazing. I look forward to drinking and enjoying it every time.
Venum (100mg geranium)
Main question: Does it have DMAA? In short, I don’t know. Last time I took DMAA pre was years ago. I don’t remember how actual DMAA feels like. I’ve been using DMHA based high stim pres for the past year. In label it says Geranium root not actual 1,3 DMAA. It does not really have pump ingredients, beside sprinkle of Agmatine.
Exprience: Taste is ok. You take it and move on with your life. Strong long lasting beta-alanine kicks in fast. It’s a builder type of a pre workout. Not a slapper. You feel something is brewing in the background. Then it transitions into good energy. It’s definitely thermogenic AF with synephrine, hordinine, ephedra and yohimbine. Expect sweating a lot. It’s overall not a happy mood/elevation experience like DMHA, it’s about intensity, focus and task driven properties. It is a intensity igniter, But at the same time, it does not feel illicit. So 100mg DMAA is under question. Post workout still had lots of energy. I trained for 1.5 hour only. But you could for 2+ easily.
Energy/endurance 9/10 Hunger suppression – Mid No stim dick, no crash. Takes long time to smooth out. To summerize it’s a good high stim pre, to have in your rotation.
Very good high stim DBMA based pre workout. Star of the show is mood elevation and endurance. You have to use it spaced out from other high stim pre workouts. Tolerance build up real fast.
Endurance and energy is high and consistent. Sustained throughout the workout.
I had Watermelon Coconutz flavor. It taste amazing, enjoyed sipping it. No bitter background taste.
They reformulated it recently. By the label it looks even better. I had OG version. It’s fun DMBA pre workout nothing to be scared of
İnsane Labz did amazing job with this formula
Can be stacked with any stim formula and deliver amazing pumps, Vascularity. My go to pump formula. Works with both 1 scoop and 2 scoops. Very light on stomach. Taste is very good. Convenient price, simple but working formula.
Overall 10/10 pump pre workout.
I didn’t get the hype behind this pre.
I had Ecstasy flavor.Effects: Little to no beta alanine. Things become HD, like Windshield clears the view.
Something brewing in the belly, it’s build up, very pleasant way and then… Kinda stops.
After that feels like caffeine, for
Endurance is good. Not a high crazy stim. Didn’t feel the DBMA like I felt in Stim Shady.
Post workout feeling good. No crash.
Star of the show was unfortunately the flavor of the pre workout lol
Ecstasy is one of the best flavors I ever had in high stim pre workouts.
Helios is a hard hitter DMHA pre.
Taste is very good. Lacks on pumps
Effects: 5-10 minutes into taking pre, medium Beta alanine and strong sense of urgency kicked in, and pretty much didn’t leave for 30 minutes. At first it was on a lil jittery side but then true DMHA buzz came in. After that strong focus followed. Weights felt light. Good flow of energy, strength through out the workout. Not that on a higher than kite mood elevation side, like in TJ’s review, but it’s makes you productive as hell. Post workout felt good. No stimmy willy. Low to medium appetite suppression
It’s one my favorite DMHA based pre workouts out there. This thing with little scoop, stim package is INCREDIBLE!
Effects: I’m big on progressive overload, so, for me most important effects of thepre workout I’m taking is the productivity. Adding weights, reps in the gym. And This boy delivers it.
So, it starts with Little to no beta alanine tingles. 10 minutes in, things become HD, then it builds up to good focus, Pupils dilated. Feeling amazing. Mood elevation. Mild euphoria. Despite label says English walnut (Juglans regia) I can confirm it’s every bit of lably, synthetic DMHA. Clean in the zone, DMHA Buzzing. It’s different/unique experience than other many DMHA pre’s I have tried. Music feel better, Head bopping. Added Weights, reps at all exercises. It gives power output, But not in a aggressive way that Hypermax’d out, Chaotic Rage, El Jefe does. Great mind muscle connection. Nice post workout buzz. No appetite suppression. No drama.
Overall 10/10 experience
I’m a Stim junky and this is one of the best daily drivers from what I have found. Hirs every time I take it.Even after the day using a an illicit high Stim pre.Beta tingles are strong and get them every time I take it. About 20-30 minutes in you get this great healthy sense of well-being and you just feel good.If you ever watched GGH’s review to this on YouTube.He states that you get this mood elevation and you just don’t know where it’s coming from based on the label. Pumps are pretty good too and flavor is good. Caffeine content is a little under 250mg.So it’s a great cycle off pre.Not artificial coloring used.Only thing I will say is make sure you have a scale.This product clumps up due to the glycerol power.30 servings as well.What more can you ask for
Wrecked is as solid a daily as there is. It hits all areas and meets all needs for a workout. It’s stimmy but not overly stimmy, it’s right in the sweet spot. I find the pumps to be good as well, not needing to add any other pumps to it. Focus and power output are two other features that I enjoyed on it. I don’t like the second version as well as the first version from an energy and focus standpoint but the pumps are better in version 2. As more high end, loaded dailies come out Wrecked still holds a spot in the market. It’s a great transition pre for people leaving the GNC, Walmart and Vitamin Shoppe pres and into the world of more stim junkie products
Edge of Insanity is one of the best high stim pres without any illicit stimulants. It’s for fans of the Alpha Yo/Yo feelings as it has good qualities of both in there. It’s a slapper for sure, gets you going and keeps you going at a high level and has the right amount of GABA to not let you go over the edge.
I found this pre to be very productive in all aspects but its main feature is stomping on the gas pedal and being a bull in the China shop. Pumps are there but not outstanding, most of them come from the work you are putting in. Flavor is good on this as well.
Ran this twice on back to back days in order to get a good feel for it. Hit a lower body and upper body days to assess strengths of the product
Scoop/Taste/Mixing- flavor was Tigers Blood and tasted good, very coconut forward if you like coconut flavor you’ll like it, was bitter and non sweet like a lot of their high stim stuff. Huge improvement if Assassin’s Ninja Blood flavor. Scoop was very lite, heaping it came up
5 g short of the serving so I had to fill around with a second scoop to get another 5g in. Mixed well for a big scoop.
Energy-Energy was good and prolonged. Not what you’d expect from 600mg of caffeine and 2 mg of Alpha Yo, more subdued . I’ve never found Apollon’s Alpha Yo to be particularly strong and that was the case here. Not sure if that’s a quality issue or not being that the quality of this leads to less sides or what but the heartbeat, breathing and nasal discharge weren’t apparent as with their other products. I found energy to be medium high which for me is personally better for an upper day than a lower day. Didn’t seem to wear off for around 8-10 hrs, not talking high level at that point just a noticeable difference when tiredness set in
Endurance/power output- Endurance was very good. Not much rest needed between sets as well as anticipation for next sets, get stuff done mindset. Power output was good as well, not a lot of grinding on early reps sets. Lasted throughout duration of workout
Focus-Focus was good, higher end throughout. High doses of Alpha GPC (1g) and L tyrosine (3g) noticeable on focus and mental clarity/mental energy. Again this lasted awhile after workout
Pumps- Pumps were great. Even on leg day while doing front squats and just holding the bar in place I got a great pump. On chest, shoulders and arms it goes without saying they were even better. Very full and vascular. I respond well to nitrates and this is loaded with them. As good as a stand alone pump
Overall- it’s more “F#ck Mediocre” than it
is “F#cking Mediocre”. I enjoyed it. I didn’t go in with high expectations as I have with other seemingly high stim preworkouts from Apollon. This is a good pre that serviced me better on upper day when I don’t need the gonzo like I do on a leg/squat day. Pump, focus and endurance were the best aspects in that order. Energy was good and long last it’s just not a big hit or a lot of urgency even with that 150mg of caff citrate in it. I enjoyed the experience even though I prefer more of a daily type stim level for my upper days and more oomph for my lower days. This will be for when I have a long day past my early AM workouts
I have Convict v1. Similiar Labels
Experience:
Strong Beta alanine tingles. Energy flow.Urgency, Get going. Very Noticable effects both physically and mentally. High level mood elevation, İnsane energy. Little rest between sets,Flying thru the workout.Mild euphoria feel good DMHA Buzz. Body and mind is ready to go. Euphoric buzz coursing through the body. Felt similar to Crack gold on feel good, euphoria department.Suits nicely for progressive overload on reps and weights
Post workout still on one.
Appetite suppression – High
Blueberry Lemonade is nice.
Overall 9/10 for me personally enjoy this very much
True DMHA Dying breed pre workout. High level of Mood elevation kicks in fast, you feel extremely good and motivated to go out and train or to do anything. That happy vibes that then turns into productiveness in the gym. It’s reliable Pre workout that will aid your progress in the gym everytime
Pumps weren’t that good but you get it anyway due to training hard.
I have Blueberry yum yum flavor, it’s very enjoyable 8.5/10.
Appetite suppression – mid
No crash after workout.
A different type of pre for sure. If you have never had DMBA should give this a try. I really didn’t get much Euphoria on this product but what you do get is this illicit type of focus. For me it takes around 30-35 minutes to fell that focus.Its the type of focus where you are just looking at yourself in the gym mirror and know you are on one.Upon the build up of that I felt slight beta tingles and you definitely feel the alpha yohimbine.It gets me sweating.Heart rate is elevated throughout the whole workout.Almost a little to much to the point that I had to stop a set because my heart was pounding to much and felt uncomfortable. Definitely noticeable pumps but nothing to ride home about.The flavor isn’t bad at all either.No weird chemical taste or anything like that.. I would only take this once a week tops and would not take it if you have consumed a dmha or Dmaa pre in the past 3 days.DMBA is a very strange stimulant.Your body builds a tolerance to it very fast.And at least for me it seems if I take another dmha/Dmaa pre and then consume DMBA that it does not hit that well. If you are a Stim junkie and wanna try something different I definitely recommend picking it up as there aren’t many pre workouts available on the market that claim dmba.
Probably the best all around Stim junky pre on the market.With no drama.No feeling of heart pounding out of chest. This was a slow builder for me.Ive taken it 3 times now.2 times at the full dose using a scale.Takes about 40 minutes for the goods to start working.Once it does you are higher than hell. If it’s not real Dmaa it’s some other chemical. It gave me so much energy that I was done with my workout and just kept pacing around the turf at the gym vibing to my music.Ive only tried the skittles flavor so far and it is tolerable. Get this while it’s still around
Great pre workout for pump, flavor I got tastes okay but the new flavors I heard taste much better. Definitely gives me a noticeable difference in how full and vascular I look, wish it included something like Alpha GPC or really anything for focus and mood. Pretty decent non stim pre.
Great tasting pre, not very high in stim or really pump, the delayed release caffeine is helpful tho if you want energy to last awhile. Decent if you’ve never had pre workout before also tastes really good. Only time I really use this is when I want a quick energy drink to wake me up but don’t have one, or before my sports practices when I am tired.
First of all, this is the best tasting preworkout I’ve ever had. Could be used daily in my opinion. Didn’t have a stim junky feel. Clean high energy and good pumps.
Stim junkie high end daily pre workout. İt’s definitely high stim experience.
Good medium betas
Build up kinda pre. Good energy. Nice power. Aggression material
Intensity going up. Urgency is there.
Feels like superpump aggression.
Pushing hard with intensity and weightlifting.
You feel Stimmed up but it’s not a hard slapper.
Post workout still on one. Not annoying but also not euphoric feel type.
Thermogenic as hell, from start to end of workout. GBB is very apparent.
Conclusion
Basically for me it feels like Superpump Agression but thermogenic and more long lasting and takes more time to build up to full effect.
Pumps were okayish.
Flavor is White Out, taste like blueberry lemonade.
Good for long intense workouts.
I have been taking pre workouts for 10 years and this is legit one of my all time favorites. The mood elevation, beta alanine tingle, focus and energy is off the charts. The pumps are also great. This pre workout is amazing and I typically use it 2-3 times a week.
For flavor, I have had all of them. The Orange Creamsicle was my least favorite, and the Cherry Pop was my favorite. It is a really good flavor.
Overall this thing is amazing, definetly for ADVANCED stim junkies only.
Tamed down version of wrecked enraged in terms of stim but with the addition of pump and more focus ingredients. Flavor definitely better than most pre workouts I’ve tried. Great overall daily pre or for someone who is only just getting into mid-high stim. Pretty good pump, energy, and focus that carried throughout my whole session.
Super hard hitting energy without the use of things like DMAA or even Yohimbe. Has no pump ingredients but that’s not what this pres meant for. Flavor wasn’t the best but within 15 minutes of taking it I was focused and ready to crush my workout with tons of intensity. Definitely a go to leg day pre workout for me that doesn’t give be any side effects, the fact this pre hits so hard without yohimbe is a huge plus for me because too much yohimbe typically gives me nausea, allowing me easily handle a double scoop.
This preworkout provides hard hitting and fast acting energy that carries throughout the workout. Definitely recommend to someone who already has a tolerance to stim ingredients or wants to get into higher stim pre workouts as this one is not for the faint of heart. However with the large does of yohimbe in combination with the pump ingredients like glycerol, I did end up feeling a little nauseous at the end of my workout however this could be chalked up to not drinking enough water earlier and taking over a scoop. Although I don’t typically care too much about my pres taste, only its effects, the flavor on this pre was not very good at all so ending up just quickly chugging it. Overall great pre with high energy, euphoria, and focus, combine with a pump product for an even better session.
Dark Labs always delivers hitters with strong energy and decent pumps, flavor is better than most Dark Labs products.
When Zeus hits, this pre-workout is among the top euphoric pre-workouts of all time. Unfortunately, it is a hit-or-miss preworkout, otherwise feeling like a chill daily driver. Bad taste but not horrid.