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A very good all around pre workout. This is something I can see myself using regularly if not for the high price tag. But then again name sells brands.
Very nice pumps, smooth energy, gets you motivated without impacting your mood. In short this is a very healthy and productive pre. The US version seems to be a bit stronger on the energy side but there is minimum difference to notice if any.
Awesome flavors both the Peach Bum and Blackberry Lemon, but I do prefer the Peach as it’s a bit lighter and sweeter.
The newer versions seems to be no – pumps, high stim pres while the one I had (with the black top on) was low/medium stim with some ok pumps. Nothing out of this world. You’d have to double scoop this to get some good effects out of which cuts down the servings to 17.5.
Overall I’d get Psychotic Gold over this any day of the week as it is higher stim and still has some really good pumps. At least the flavor was very nice, very light.
An awesome pre if you can get it on a sale, otherwise there are much better pre workouts out there for the same price point. I got a couple of these for my friends and myself at Bucked Up (they were having a huge 4th of July sale) so if you can grab it at a similar occasion do it.
Beta alanine tingles far outshine anything else here. They start out strong and last a while. The energy lasts a bit longer than on WOKE AF, didn’t feel much alpha yohimbine effects, but the pumps were pretty solid.
One thing Bucked Up does the best is flavor their pre workouts, you can’t go wrong with any of their choices.
Super underdosed. I recommend it as a beginner’s pre over the C4. If you can get WOKE AF over this do it. Apart from some mediocre pumps this is as effective as a monster energy can. Will wake you up if you feel sluggish but that’s about it. Been sitting at the bottom of my drawer for a while now I sometimes even forget I have it, might double scoop it just to use it up.
Koala Freak Aussie Fruit (get Pina Koala if you are deciding between these two, it’s better) is damn delicious tho and it’s at least cheaper that an energy drink.
So basically this is the same pre as the new Total War but with nitrates. Not gonna explain much since it’s the same pre workout just with 50% better pumps. My label is a bit different since I bought this in the EU which might be different from the US one. They are basically the same just without fat burning properties.
The flavor was solid as with all Total War pres.
Got this from a local retail shop back in 2020.
It was a solid choice back then for a intermediate pre. Very good all around pre workout, very consistent effects and you you’d be surprised how good the pumps are without too many ingredients in it. Nothing mood elevating or insane in it but still enough to get you in the “zone” for a good workout.
The flavors are insanely good and the Baja Burst RTD bottles are the best RTD drinks I’ve ever tasted, it’s a shame the shops started carrying Ryse some time ago.
An unexpected but welcome surprise for me. I at first bought this as a fat burner for my significant other to use. As it turns out even at half dose it was too much for her as the effects lasted too long.
So I said what the hell let me try it. Man did I have a blast on this. I ended up using it thruought the summer so much I was bummed out I couldn’t use it more than twice a week without building up a tolerance.
There is no pump on this, no tunnel vision, no focus, just insane amounts of energy and mood elevation. Perfect for long cardio workouts or endurance/MMA workouts. It really makes you sweat and the insane physical energy helps you push trough workouts harder and for longer helping you burn more energy as a result.
This is perhaps my favorite Dark Labs supplement I’ve used so far and the one I’ve used the most. Oh and the flavor aint too bad either, it’s a bit spicy-peppery but maybe that’s what I like about it, kinda gets you in an irritable fat burning mood.
This is probably the second strongest pre workout I’ve used so far, and am I glad I started out with a half dose.
Even at half dose I had insane aggressive energy and motivation right at the start, 15 minutes in. Awesome laser focus and willpower to crush the weights for a heavy af workout. The problem comes when I tried a full dose a week later. I don’t think it’s the high amount of caffeine or alpha yo since I am very tolerant to both but it took me a good hour and a half after taking it just to calm myself down after feeling anxious a the start of the workout. I could almost feel my heart beating in my chest. It was very hard to focus on your muscles when you are scared that your heart might pop out.
Verdict: 1 scoop is perfect, 2 scoops is too much unless you have a built up tolerance. Also just chug down the drink, the flavor is tolerable but not something I would sip on.
An awesome choice for a daily use pre workout.
For the amount you can get this on the official dark labs site (a bonus is they are based in both Poland and USA so they ship everywhere) you get 30 servings of a very balanced out pre workout which is very rare these days.
Very strong beta alanine right out of the bat, fast energy and focus, very, very nice pumps, there is nothing I’d add to this pre workout really without making it over the top. A bit less caffeine for a daily pre would be desirable but with the profile list you get at this price point this far beats any other pre out there by a mile.
The flavor isn’t as bad as some other Dark Labs pres but it’s not something I look forward to, and it doesn’t help I really dislike grape (it was all they had left in stock).
My oh my was I not ready for this one.
This is my first entry into Dark Labs and wanting to try something strong without any illicits in it I thought this would be a solid start. Boy was I wrong.
Thinking it was not a super high stim pre I thought I’d start with the full dose (double scoop) and man was I in for a ride. 10 minutes in I got hit by such an insane surge of energy I had to dial down a bit and wait it out to smooth out. I really couldn’t focus for the first 30 minutes but after a while the nootropics kicked in and I went into a tunnel vision I did not expect from a non-DMHA pre.
On label you wouldn’t think it’s that strong but man this pre SLAPS. Wouldn’t use it more than once a week tho lest I get high stim tolerance.
Also the flavor leaves a bit to be desired but I hear that’s the case with all Dark Labs sups so I didn’t expect much to begin with. (And I love Cherry Lime but this was just eugh)
Very very very disappointed in my 07/26 Excelsior. I’ve tried it twice now, and it has ruined 2 chest and back days for me.
To me, this isn’t a preworkout. It is more suited for a 6 hour long standardized test, marathon, or hike. It gives me no energy until about 2.5-3 hours after ingesting and even then, it’s very slight. You could convince me that this is just 100 mg of caffeine with adderall. Tastes good. Straight nootropic. Good focus and alright mood elevation, but the weights feel heavier.
It has helped me learn that I lean toward more aggressive preworkouts. So if that’s you, l’d save my money from this block of fool’s gold.
I had a couple of samples left from when this very first came out… I heard lots of horror stories but maybe because they were samples, they were dressed more appropriately for my liking.
Not sure but I have heard horror stories. Overall this is pretty smooth, a decent ride with some decent mood elevation. The 200mg of DMHA seems reasonably well sourced, okay head buzz that helped with motivation. I was feeling pretty good in the gym but I went in with expectations that this was gonna be a heart stopper.
It was good but not really what I was bracing for. I was bracing for a terrible time that I figured I would have to force myself through. Expectations were exceeded by going in with low expectations. This is an overall pretty decent and motivating pre workout. I personally will not buy the tub but just because I have so many other preworkout choices with DMHA. Personally I prefer Primal Edition by crack if I’m comparing DMHA pre workouts.
Expiration date is 07/26
I got this from Ruesco when the samples went live. I’ve been wanting to try this for a few reasons. 1). It’s super expensive 2). The supposed secret ingredient.
As an aside, I take ritalin so I’m not super sensitive to illicit, rc, or rx stims. This didn’t really hit for me until I went running, once I found my music I was digging it… I ended up making this workout a run and ran about 7 miles when I usually run 5. I have and sometimes do run up to 8 or 10 miles but not this time. 7 miles was enough… this seems like an effective drug for cardio, whatever it is. Focus is sharp, music sounds great, and I was motivated to run harder and faster than I normally do.
Although you would think for the price it would be a bit more magical. It is not. Do not go into this one thinking it’s gonna enhance you, make anything lighter/easier, just go into it thinking “I’m gonna have a good time working out.”
Although I only had the one scoop, I felt like I could have gotten away with using two scoops. It’s not worth the price but it is worth the experience!
Samples at Ruesco go for $8 each, less when you buy more. It’s worth a sample for sure. I’d be interested to see how this compares to other expiration dates because I’ve heard of people having better experiences with different exp dates.
Flavor is great though, tasted like Hawaiian Punch!
This is a very well designed pump formula that I typically use to pair with a high stim pre workout. It has a lite nootropic boost so it’s okay to take this one if you lift in the evening without it affecting your sleep too much. This one is heavy on the stomach, I like to give it about 45 minutes to settle before a workout. The flavor is cherry pop which is a really nice flavor. I mixed one scoop of this straight into a tiger’s blood flavored preworkout and made a really nice cocktail that got me stimmed and shredded. This one is fun but I prefer it as something to pair with another preworkout rather than something to use on its own.
Much like it’s brother, El Jefe, Guerilla hits hard. I prefer this one at a 2 scoop measure because it feels lighter than el Jefe but what it lacks in that high stim category is not very much. This one has 400mg of theobromine which hits nicely but the pump formula is what sets this one aside from El Jefe original. Great pumps, my body feels full while lifting. Amazing mind muscle connection, light mood elevation, good focus with the nootropics blend intact.
Great dosage of the DMAE and Alpha GPC, the pump formula probably is what makes this a bit heavy on the stomach. My only complaint. Blueberry lemonade is the flavor which is actually really nice. Not chalky or medicinal tasting at all. Amazing pre workout!
Excellent daily driver that is high stim, I use this more than once a week but at a 1 scoop dose. It has the 1-2 scoops ratio, I was first trying with 2 scoops but found that to be a bit heavy. This one will weigh in on your stomach or at least it does for me. 1-1.5 scoops is about right for me to use as a daily driver or as a buffer in between my high stim workouts.
Great pump formula already inside but when I do one scoop, I like to pair with a scoop of sicario. The combo together is even tougher on the stomach so I usually give it about 45 minutes before my workout to settle. Excellent energy, the theobromine at 500mg with 2 scoops seems to be the star of the show, ahead of the caffeine. The DMAE syncs up nicely for great focus and has incredible synergy with the theobromine and caffeine.
The flavor I have is “cherry pop” which I may have gotten lucky with because I’ve heard not so nice things about the other flavors. Cherry pop is decent and is a full bodied flavor, quite honestly one of the best tasting pre workouts I’ve had.
Good stim free formula. Taste is very nice. A lil gritty texture while drinking, probably due to Glycerol.
I didn’t feel the nootropic effects pn or focus on it, because without combining with Caffeine I can’t feel extra Focus. But mind muscle connection was nice. It’s middle of the road pump formula meaning you can’t stack it with anything.
Pumps are tight, not watery surprisingly.
Flavor I have is Mermaid kisses like rainbow candy, sweet, nice, enjoyable
This has become one of my favorite products. It’s fun to toy with these. It takes 3 caps to get that heavy buzz, which to me feels like a 200 to 250mg dose. Even though they don’t feel as strong as the ingredients suggest. I can add one to a daily preworkout and it majorly boost my motivation. Which I’m starting to like. Sometimes I want that head buzz to go away, but with high doses unfortunately you’re stuck with it. One cap will make me push just a little but harder with no lingering dmha buzz. Two will spice it up a notch more and three provides a longer lasting effect which sometimes I’m okay with and sometimes I’m not.
This to me feels more like “geranium” than dmha. Comparing to crack purple, I’d say maybe 70 to 80mg of it. It’s very smooth, but energizing. The star of the show to me is, the focus and good mood it puts you in. I’ve enjoyed this as an alternative to crack purple since it is going away. Pumps are the best, but they are there. Probably because of the focus and work your putting in.
This one is a wild ride. High heart rate from after 5 min of ingesting until the end of the workout. Some people think it’s got alpha yo in it. Personally I don’t. The only alpha yo like symptom I get is aggression and a lot of saliva. It’s something different in here that makes your have to move. This is a wake you from the dead type of pre. The dmha kicks in about 30 to 40 minutes in and kind of helps tame the monster of whatever is in here. It’s very clean dmha. I’ve tried taking half to 3/4 doses of this, but for some reason to get that wild illicit of whatever is in here, the full dose only gives me that. I’ve only used this pre 3 times and have had it for awhile. It’s a once every couple months type of pre. A wild experience. It’s one of those you wonder if it will cross that line of too much and it gets very close, but never does.
Overall this is a great preworkout. A high end daily if your okay with 400+mg of caffeine in a day. I usually drop the serving size down so I can consume less than 400 when I use it as a daily. It is suppose to be a nootropic based pre, so heavy on the focus. There’s a little mood elevation that I assume comes from the l-dopa and theobromine. Pumps are solid for the little bit of pump ingredients it provides. I believe this is due to the mind muscle connection from all the nootropics. Really dialing in and focusing on the reps.
This one hits fast and keeps building. A second wave of energy hits around the 45min to hour mark. A full scoop will likely be too much for most people. I’m a stim junky and 3/4 of a scoop hits just right for me. I don’t notice any side effects from the alpha-yo. There is no denying this has the goods in it. Probably in my top 3 favorites.
Complete high end daily pre workout!
Provides great motivation to workout hard.Great energy, nice Focus. Post workout feeling good. No crash, no side effects. I really like this one as reliable daily pre workout. 3-4 times a week. Only 400mg of caffeine and Eria. One of the few complete products that provides pumps, energy, mood. You don’t need anything on top of. It’s just right amount of everything.
Energy – 5/5
Mood elevation 4/5
Pumps 5/5
Taste 5/5
Overall 5/5
This is a very interesting pre since you can’t really pinpoint a single thing that’s like more noticeable than the other but the complete package in total is perfect. The pumps are very good and vascular, physical energy hits fast and hard but smoothes over, mental focus is great gets you dialed in nicely, you can feel the muscles working. But there is still something missing, you wait for something to happen, but it never does. If I were to describe this pre in a single word it would be too smooth, uneventful. There is that BAM that is missing that would make this pre workout a 10/10.
Overall I’d call this a very high end-daily or a bodybuilder pre workout. I use it on days where I am already in a good and productive mood and I just want that extra push to CRUSH the workout in the gym. And the Blue Sharky Gummy is very tasty if a bit too sweet.
The bodybuilders’ best pre.
Insane pumps, insane muscle-mind connection, insane focus, everything you need to squeeze the maximum out of your muscles. Enough energy to shake you up but still have you focused to squeeze every rep possible out of your workout. Personally I love nitrates and the combination with VasoDrive AP makes the pumps super vascular and super SWOLE at the same time. Took it together with a friend and while we both did have a great workout he did get lightheaded near the end which might have been due to to much NO. But the ingredient profile is such that you can easily take a half dose and have a great workout.
The taste is nice, tastes just like Sex on the beach but there is a bit of residue leftover so try to chug it down asap (40 gram scoop wooooo). It is a limited edition so get it while you can, I still haven’t finished this one and I already have a second tub on the way.
This pre workout is super straightforward and super aggressive and has been in my rotation for a long long time, like apart from hardcore stims It’s my go to for hardcore training sessions.
The energy hits you super fast and super hard, like a monster truck, 10-15 minutes in you get super hot due to alpha yo, your head starts spinning, you want to jump out of your own skin. Makes me want to do supersets even if they are not in my plan, the energy just keeps coming. No head high, no dirty illicit feelings, just insane amounts of energy. Like really insane. Really. The pumps are meh.
The best part of all is – the flavor. My God the flavor here is otherwordly, Jersey Mobster Italian Ice is THE BEST tasting flavor I have ever tasted in a pre workout, period. No thing comes close to this. I’ve had over 6-7 tubs of this flavor alone. And I’ve tried them all. My top 4 would be Italian Ice, Grizzly Gummy, Lights Out Lemon, Berry Berry Angry.
Some retailers might not carry all the flavors so you might have to shuffle between them, Nutricartel’s got most of them in stock right now.
Awesome physical energy pre. Doesn’t really stim you out even with the 2.5mg alpha yo. The alpha yo is very noticeable but won’t make you anxious or anything unless you react bad to it overall. The most noticeable thing is the beta alanine. It’s the strongest and longest lasting beta alanine I’ve felt so far, even to the point it’s borderline unbearable. It really gives to the urgency this pre invokes.
The pumps could absolutely be better, maybe some vasodrive ap or glycerol but thats about it. It’s an overall awesome mid-stim strong heavy-ass session pre. Not every pre needs illicit stims to be good. I’d still avoid using it more than 2 times a week to avoid oversaturating on beta alanine.
Citrus Grapefruit was an awesome, tasty mild pink grapefruit flavor. I’m glad they made it a permanent product since I was bummed that I didn’t get more a year ago when it was first released as a limited edition.
An upgrade from the Specimen Worldwide.
Very similar to the above mentioned, but unlike the former you can feel the beta alanine, the caffeine is more noticeable and the energy is there, the pumps are still there. Also doesn’t clump like the earlier version, very fine powder.
The flavors are delicious too, love the Alien Pop reminds me of the Twister Pop and Blue Raspberry tastes just like Blue Raspberry slushie.
A smooth, laser focus, high-end daily with nice pumps.
This is an all-around awesome pre, a jack of all trades but master of none. The pumps are solid, the beta is noticeable and last a while, there is no euphoria but you get very focused in, awesome mind-muscle connection 10 minutes warming in and the caffeine comes in very nicely, not too strong but lasts a while. The White Widow is quite unique and nice too, never tasted anything like it in a pre.
The formulas seem to differ wildly between versions and the Voodoo seems to be the strongest of them.
A mediocre daily driver.
There is nothing exceptional about this pre. It’s only redeeming quality is that the pumps it gives are more vascular due to nitrates but that’s about it. No energy, the beta alanine is barely noticeable if at all (even at double dose, 4 scoops).
The Cherry Pop taste was nice and nostalgic, I cant quite pinpoint where I’ve tried it before , BUT STAY AWAY FROM VOODOO COLA. Tastes like Pine Air Refreshner, no joke. That sh*t is down right horrendous, had to use it double dosed daily to get rid of it sooner. It’s at least strong enough to shake you up at double dose.
Extreme. Like really.
I’ve yet to do a full serving so I will update my review when I do. But still on half a serving you are going to get such intense and aggressive energy and focus it’s going to put you into a tunnel vision and all you can see are weights. I wouldn’t recommend this for PR days but for more long-length, heavy ass gym sessions.
Plan to train until you are sore on this. Got this on Nutricartel and it was one of the last ones on there, I’m glad I found them because they have the widest choice of supplements anywhere and they ship worldwide ( I live in the middle of nowhere). Show them some love they got awesome deals all the time you won’t regret it.
Grab it if you can this one is unique.
A great mid-high level pre. Tons of beta alanine in it, prepare the butt-scratcher for this.
The pumps are aight, they are there but could be better, vascular tho, nothing glycerol like. The star here is the strength and power output, gonna help you lift more for longer. The energy is nice but nothing over the top or heart stopping.
It’s nothing to write home about if you take pre’s everyday but if you take a stim break at least for a week it’s gonna slap you hard. Oh and the flavor is extremely good, no artificial dye either.
I’m posting this review the same day I tried this pre so this is my single use first time impression.
Mixes super well, very light scoop, the taste is very nice very palatable sour gummy. Got the powder a bit clumped but nothing a good shake can’t fix (this might be due to glycerol in it).
10 minutes in you get a nice, mild surge of energy while you get your mindset ready for the gym. 15 mins in the beta alanine kicks in, not too strong but pretty nice for 3.2 grams. This is where both the energy and focus start to come together to form something special. Now this is not my first time taking a product with juglans in it so I had some idea what to expect from it but boy was I in for a WILD ride. The focus, the mentality, the mood elevation, the juicy glycerol chest pumps, everything was on point! Made me feel like this was THE perfect workout, my mood went up made me want to chat with everyone all the time. Made me want to do 10 sets of bench press just for the fun of it while I’d usually do 4 sets of 120kgx12 but this time I didn’t get tired I just wanted to keep going and kept adding more plates, not a worry in the world. It just made me happy and focused like I could feel the pump like never before.
This was like 7 hours ago and I’m still feeling good and energetic, I’m quite amazed there is no crash on here, but man am I going to be sore tommorow.
Also haven’t felt any alpha yo in here but I never do under 3mg I react really well to it.
This is the first Panda product I have ever taken so I cannot compare it to the earlier versions but I am quite satisfied with the Goblin Juice edition.
Now I went into this completely blind without knowing what to expect, the marketing around it was INSANE AND AGGRESSIVE ENERGY AND MOOD ELEVATION but words are just words. Perhaps that is the big problem here, a wrong focus with the marketing. What I got out of this pre is a healthy, happy mood elevation with a productive focused mindset, but nothing extraordinary. I’d take this before lunch around noon and I’d have a nice, productive, focused workout, but no PR CRUSHING AGRESSION or anything such, still each time I’ve used it I had a constant nice mood and no crush afterwards so there’s that.
With such a huge ingredient panel you’d expect more from it especialy since there are stronger pre workouts out there at the same price point.
The flavor is a huge plus because it’s something unique and something I’ve never tasted before that I cannot quite put my finger on.
A good daily driver pre but nothing out of this world.
I’d get this over Total War or the new SuperHuman Extreme any day of the week. The pumps are ok but nothing special, the focus ingredients are just sprinkled and heavily underdosed. The Wallmart 20 dose version is even weaker than the normal version over at Bucked Up but it’s barely noticeable (could be due to missing Dendrobium extract but I question if it even does anything at all).
Get it on a sale as a daily driver or to sip as a stronger energy drink (the flavors are really awesome) but do not expect much if you are used to stim-heavy formulas.
P.S. The lemonade and Miami flavors are my favorites, but you can’t go wrong with any of them.
A great fat burning pre, but it’s neither here or there, it contains a sprinkle of pump and endurance ingredients but they are not needed in a pre like this since it’s formulated to be extremely useful in a cardio or HIT workouts. The sims are there so sure, you can use it in a regular workout but don’t expect much pump – strength wise.
This will make you SWEAT, like a lot. The heavy thermogenic effect adds to the stims, the combined 300mg of caffeine will be more than enough with MITOBURN kicking your metabolism to utilize fat. Again this is going to be a hit or miss since everybody is different and you might react differently (the 1mg of Alfabin Alpha Yo is barely noticeable but it might hit you harder) so start with a half dose to assess tolerance and go from there.
I notice now that the formula I had is a tad bit different than the one displayed on Label Rater as the one here does not contain Alpha Yo and proGBB which can make the thermogenic effect a bit stronger. I did get this pre a year ago from AL so I do not know which is the current one.
Perhaps the best Alpha Lion pre-workout to date.
It’s sad they are going to stop making this bad boy because this pre SLAPS. This is the strongest and hardest hitting Alpha Lion formula they made and man does it hit hard. This was my go to heavy-stim pre workout before I tried the hardcore stuff but if you are looking for a beginner stim junkie pre this is my recommendation.
The pumps are there but the ENERGY and MOOD elevation are just next level and even if the flavor is not that important to you Alpha Lion makes masterpieces, both Cherry Popper and the sour gummy Hulk Juice are unique and are a treat to sip on.
Now of course this won’t hit everyone the same, since this was my first pre with eria and more exotic stims it was a unique experience for me, some stim veterans and junkies might have a built up tolerance and might not feel a thing.
A great pump formula by itself, gives good juicy pumps thanks to the HydroPrime Glycerol and really shines the best when paired with a good stim formula, tho I would avoid adding a full serving to a pre that already contains a good dose of beta alanine and/or L citrulline because sometimes less is more. Perfect for late workouts given that the beta alanine tingling is very noticeable which can help you get motivated without stimming you out and impacting your sleep.
The flavors are extremely good like with every Alpha Lion product, and while not a big fan of mango flavors the Mango Veiniac was very nice and not too sweet, tho the blueberry mojito is my favorite and the one I’d stick to.
Also be careful with storing it because it will easily change consistency from powdery to wet-sand like if exposed to moisture (I learned that the hard way).
A great non stim pump formula. Nice amount of beta analine to give the coming up rush, load of pump ingredients and lions mane for cognition. The pump was huge, had my delts popping through bicep preacher curls. Mixes easily, no lumps.
Great stuff, adding to my non stim list.
One of the better Bucked-Up preworkouts. The energy and focus was substantial. Wish there were more pumps. Did keep me up at night, taking it at 5:30 pm. Kiwi tasted great. Could be a good daily driver.