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5G scoop but hits hard. Solid energy and mood elevation. I think this one is V3
Good one from dark labs and overall better than most pre workouts but compared to their other pres I liked this one a bit less. Good energy
Very good, feels similar to purple to me. Maybe a bit more mood elevation with this one. Good energy and focus
Great one and feels very unique. Solid energy and mood elevation
Really liked this one. Solid energy and focus. Tons of sweat and the weights feel lighter. One of the best for me
Good energy, some mood elevation, music sounds better. Solid one
WILD FIRE
It HITS! The energy is constant. Unlike other pres that I tried.
Solid fat burner but super high stim. Wouldn’t use it as a daily fat burner. Great product from dark labs 👍
Really Solid, focus and strength is definitely enhanced. Can’t go wrong with this. I wouldn’t say it changed my mood but it definitely made me want to lift more and longer. Times that I’d be second guessing a rep, on this I just laughed it off and pushed through. I couldn’t even think of ending the workout, I just wanted to keep lifting. It was extremely smooth, I personally didn’t feel it taking effect, I just knew I was on something and to me that’s how it should feel.
Was sweating a bit more than normal, gave an ok pump and tastes fine. (Skittles).
This is for Flame V3, I’ve ran this incredible concoction 3 times already and am looking forward to more.
Great ingredient list but missing citrulline and beta alanine (in case that bothers you and you needed to know).
That caffeine citrate kicks in quick with this blend, so running was definitely a good warm up to get that blood flowing. This was a pretty intense, all around pre workout with heightened mood, intense focus, and endless energy.
You start slamming weights and feeling incredibly strong, very euphoric and long lasting blend. This is (in my humble opinion) a better alternative to Herolean. It’s like it lands in between Herolean and Crack Primal. Flame V3 has a similar profile to herolean but is slightly underdosed on the DMHA compared to Crack Primal. If anything characterized this perfectly it’s when my training partner commented on the focus and said “there’s nothing else… there’s no today or tomorrow, it’s just right now, me and the weights”.
I thought it was profound enough to steal it and use it for this review. This is clearly a sweet spot of a perfect and balanced, stim junkie pre workout. Not too aggressive but aggressive enough when lifting, nice euphoria and mood lift but countered by focus so you’re not aimlessly floating through the gym. It provides a healthy desire to put in hard work and maintain that hard work. If I had to give it a score, overall I would give this experience a 9.5/10. I deducted the .5 because it would be perfect yet unrealistic to have this included as a daily driver. That’s one way this would be a perfect 10 is if it had everyday use behind it. However I like the idea of keeping this like a fine champagne, and break it out on occasion with good company and some serious work ahead in the gym.
The flavor was blueberry lemonade that tasted like lemon pledge and some crappy blueberry gummy. It wasn’t too terrible, the blueberry comes in like you accidentally inhaled some air freshener from an aerosol can before chasing it down with an element of battery acid while sucking on a lemon cough drop. Not at all chalky so that was a bonus.
Panta is a very well priced, basic necessary mix of pre-workout ingredients. It has caffeine, citrulline, beta allanine, taurine, and agmatine. It has a few added bonuses like alpha GPC at 300mg, theobromine at 100mg and huperzine at 20mcg. Caffeine has 2 types between anyhydrous and green coffee, totaling at 450mg. I paid $35 at the time from Panda Supps but I think even now the price went lower to $30.
It’s absolutely worth having to keep around when you are taking a break from high stim pre-workouts. On a few occasions I’ve taken it when needing an energy boost or an energy drink and realized I didn’t have any beta-alanine that day. I primarily have been using it as the ‘C’ in my ECA stacks and once or twice have thrown alpha yo capsules in with euphoria capsules to make a much more intense workout. There’s a lot to be said about Panta as it is stackable and transferable. They beta alanine tingles are there but are pretty mild, the caffeine is a good boost with the theobromine, and alpha gpc is another ingredient becoming more prominent in energy drinks these days. There’s just enough alpha gpc to gain focus enough to see the workout through.
The flavor is reindeer blood and the artwork is always cool as hell coming from Panda. Reindeer’s blood tastes more like a fruit punch, the flavor is not bad at all, especially for a pre-workout! It actually tastes like a fruit punch, although the consistency is chalky. There’s plenty of other pre-workouts that cost more and have less ingredients and or potency (alani-nu comes to mind). This going for $30-$35 direct from the source is a great deal and a good start if you want to stack your pre-workouts
It’s an above average preworkout for sure. The energy was good, the focus was really good, and I was able to lift longer and harder than normal.
I do not believe all of the hype is warranted, but this is a solid preworkout. It was a really good burst of energy with a little bit of mood elevation and it is overall a pretty calm experience.
Didn’t have any side effects or even have a crash like some other experience. I would buy a different high stim illicit supplement before purchasing this one again.
Great beginner pre. I like the creatine addition. Gives good energy but that’s pretty much it.
This is a great pre. Sadly it’s given me some odd side effects. Other than that though, it tastes great, amazing pumps, and gives you energy for days.
Was a little let down from all the hype for this guy. It provides great energy but the mood elevation isn’t there for me. As always drink plenty water and don’t take it later in the day. I still feel Zeus is better.
All time favorite pre workout. Cover it all. Energy, mood elevation, Euphoria, insane pumps, post workout buzz, feeling on top of the world. No sides, no drama. Taste is also great. I have tropical punch.
2-amino at 250mg with 1.75mg of alpha yohimbine is probably the most noticeable takeaways from the list of ingredients. The dosage of these two seem to work absolutely beautifully together. The citrulline mallate could be a little higher at 2:1 6grams, leaving you with just 4grams of citrulline. Beta-alanine is at its clinical finest 3200mg effective dose. The N-phenethyl (Eria Jarensis) at 300mg is a good dose but I’ve done well with 500mg and would probably liked to have just a little more Eria.
This was the 3rd batch of crack products from dark labs that I’ve purchased and has been in my rotation for the past 6 months. I would run this 1-2 times a month with my opinion having changed recently only due in part to the new Dark Labs products (maniaco specifically comes to mind) that have come out. It is a very hard driving pre-workout that comes with a strong sense of urgency and makes you work extra hard. I always go for extra reps on Primal and don’t even realize failure is setting in until failure sets in.
I always tend to start off doing cardio before my sets and with crack primal, I learned to reduce the amount of time doing a cardio warm up because I would get too eager and want to start lifting. This is one of those strong 2-amino DMHA pre-workouts that have your heart rate reaching cardio numbers by your 2nd set anyway, so it was more about getting the heavy work in than the heart rate. Highly intense mood elevation, music sounds better, lots of focus and determination. There’s no chill with Crack Primal, this is one of those pre-workouts with moderately high intensity. You might find yourself looking in the mirror at the gym thinking “there’s a million war crimes out there, how come I haven’t been charged with a single one? What am I doing with my life? I need to commit a felony or something!”
Taste is terrible, Dark Labs doesn’t have the best taste profiles for a lot of their products and primal seems to be one that is no exception. The sample I first got from Ruescos was “peachy witchy” and it tasted like a mix between medicine and crystal meth. I didn’t notice any peach and the taste was rough enough for me to remember this over a half year later. The full tub I bought was pineapple sangria which has the taste of the smell of what hunters rub on themselves to get bear’s horny… or something. It was no good but not really worth complaining about either.
This was at one time my favorite fat burner before I started exploring other fat burners on the market. I’ve used this product on the weekends for a few months to increase cardio output, but it is currently not even my favorite dark labs fat burner that is out. The herolean I have is version 2 but I’ve also seen multiple reviews for the original formula having too much yohimbine involved. This version brings it down to 1mg of alpha yohimbine and instead of DMAA you get 225mg DMHA and 300mg of eria jarensis. There’s 3 types of caffeine (anhydrous, citrate the fast acting type and dicaffeine malate that’s more like extended release). The problem with the label starts with the actual physical label on the tub, because it’s a small tub with a big label there is only 2 ways for me to read it without pulling it up through the dark labs site. I either have to zoom in with my camera or I have to put on a pair of reading glasses.
The flavor I got was “tropic punch” but it’s the worst impression of a tropic or tropical punch that I have ever had. The taste is the worst part because when you think about seeing other labels with black pepper on them, it’s usually rare that you can taste it. I’m not sure if it’s the black pepper itself which is normally used to aid in digestion and absorption, but there is quite a strong pepper taste with the tropic punch. It’s a cross between chemicals, pepper, and some type of dollar store brand fruit punch that barely masks up the negatives of the flavor.
The energy output is great, which is always what I’m looking for in a fat burner. This would actually make for a decent pre workout when stacked with a pump formula. I can usually boost my cardio time by an extra half hour because of the euphoria that comes in with the DMHA and eria jarensis. The alpha yo doesn’t just have to sit at 1mg, I think if you’re into alpha yohimbine like I am, it’s probably okay to throw on a capsule of alpha yo to cap this off as well. The intensity of the cardio output is boosted by 25%-50%. It seems like in some cases it’s just not as reliable as a fat burner when it comes to the intensity of activity you get up to. It seems like if I’ve taken this 10x, I was disappointed by results 3x throughout its use. There were days where for whatever reason it just didn’t slap as hard as other days that I have taken it on. Appetite suppression was never amazing with this product but also I tend to stay fasted before high intensity cardio, so that definitely has a role in this.
I think there’s a lot of ways someone could benefit from this fat burner… stack it with a pump formula to turn it into more of a stim junkie pre workout with explosive power or stack an alpha yo capsule on it to increase the rate of sweating this could be bringing out of you during cardio.
Juiced. 17 grams
Strong betas
Something brewing
Urgency. Ready for crushing weight
Nuclear energy inside
Tweaking. On the egde. High animal Focus
All over the place on high intensity sets.
Adds so much intensity and pushing hard
Post workout still on
Dry mouth, Throat. Nose runs
Post workout spaced out
Burping all the time
Appetite suppression.
Low stim dick
A lil background nausea
Feeling cold.
It’s spiked and illicit af
Mouth water run. Tight throat
High stim Saturday pre only
Don’t do such Juiced illicit pre, if you have other things to do later on the day. Once a month pre workout if you feel naughty lol
Beta tingles medium to high.
Happy mood elevation. Energy building up on the way to gym, and it feels like need to be unleashed
Post workout feeling good. Aggressive energy as well during workout.
Sour Squatch is an amazing flavor
Flame V3. Stim bomb. Dark labs DMHA feel. Have to pair it with pump formula for better effects and mask the horrid taste. Clumps up very fast. Turns into gummy and loses its effect. Must have pre for your Dark labs collection
High end stim junkie daily pre workout. Full dose is nice and strong. Alpha Yo does not feel very hard hitting or aggressive. Good mood elevation. Good pumps. Gets the job done. Main winner point is the price and serving size. 30 servings for 32-33$ with discount codes on Nutricartel
It’s a strong DMHA pre workout. Clean, yet hard hitter. Strong Beta Alanine, Mood elevation, Focus. Aggression, Strength output. Weights feel light. You are on fire. No rest between sets. It’s a Rip and Tear kind of a pre workout. And it’s super consistent. Little to no side effects
Very good high stim preworkout without things like DMHA. Not anything crazy for pump however provides fast acting focus and energy. The first time I took it, I had 1.5-2 scoops, and the yohimbe as well as rauwolfia hit very hard giving me cold sweats and jitters. I sweat like crazy and was dialed in the whole session however those ingredients gave me some bad nausea(and other side effects) towards the mid to end of my workout so I would not recommend this to anyone who hasn’t had or doesn’t like yohimbe(or yohimbe derivatives), or just don’t double scoop like I did. Otherwise good high stim pre you can even get at your local GNC.
Where this pre shines is specifically in the amount of euphoria and energy it provides. Took one scoop before one of my bench sessions and within 15-20 minutes I felt an elevation of focus, mood, and most notably energy, which also helped me to get a new pr. This provides large amounts of smooth energy throughout your whole workout, stack with a pump product and you will have an even better session. Flavor is tolerable with some acidic and sour aftertaste, pump is okay but this pre isn’t meant for pump so stack with another product if that’s what you want.
Wildfire to me, feels like a proper stim junkie, hardcore preworkout, crossed with a microdose of psychedelics. To my knowledge there is not any psychedelics in wildfire, what it does have is 30 servings of a very sensual love affair that you maintain with the weights. The world outside of you and the iron does not matter. It’s just you, the weights, and an intense but focused aggressive relaxation between you and the weights. You hit goals and do extra reps, getting everything done in a fram of time that would be cruel if it was anything less than infinite. This is my champagne that I like to break out on special occasions. The pumps are not fantastic but it is not a pump formula. The L-theanine added really smooths out the high intensity stims on the label.
It’s been said that there may be something off label. This does offer 100mg of DMAA and 200mg of DMHA on the label. Caffeine to L-theanine is 1:1 at 350mg. Beta alanine at 3000 brings out those itchy tingles, a fair bit about 200mg shy of “clinical dosing” (or what’s been studied for effective results). L-citrulline is at 6 grams which is also a fair dosage but not the highest. Taurine and DMAE, are both at 500mg which I don’t have much opinion of.
1 serving is 14.3 grams which turns out to be the serving size surprisingly enough. I pulled out my jewelry scale for this once and weighed it 3x just to be sure. The scoop is accurate.
The flavor I got was skittles… it doesn’t taste like skittles, it tastes like lemon pledge with crushed aspirin. I kinda like that though because it lets you know that you’re not ingesting this orchestral arrangement of beautiful chemicals for it to taste like a bag of skittles.
Haven’t found anything better. I believe this is better than Wild Fire.
Initial taste of strawberry lemonade. After taste of acid. Immediate heightened focus almost as if your vision narrows. Effects rise for about 30 minutes then last for hours.
I’ve taken it 3 times and have drank a gallon of water at the gym each time, so make sure to bring your biggest bottle.
The length of the energy reminds me of whatever medication they give you the day before wisdom teeth surgery. Cardio feels amazing on Zeus. No fatigue. Feels like you’re flying.
Huge fan of this one. Not a ton of caffeine, but I like the way this product hits. Provides really great focus and the energy is definitely there.
I set a couple personal records using this product and it has hit every time I have used it. It’s not overwhelming, but it’s definitely a noticeable bump in energy. Focus is the star of the show for me and it’ll definitely help you get a sweat going. No crash or drawbacks for me on this one.
I have already ordered a second bottle of this and look forward to keeping it in my rotation!
Good pump preworkout. The serving size is heavy especially if you use two scoops so you’ll need to mix it with a decent amount of water. Flavor is doable and didn’t bother me too much.
The product did come in clumpy and I’m not sure if that’s common with these types of supplements.
The pumps were really good, every muscle in my legs were pumped and stayed that way for several hours.
Doesn’t offer much for mood elevation or energy since it is a pump formula, but it is a good one!
Really solid for a fat burning preworkout. I get the sweats every time I use this one and always have a good lift.
I get a good amount of focus out of this one and the warm feeling it gives me really puts me in the zone to lift. Definitely recommend if you are someone who likes to sweat during their workout.
Alpha lion has good flavors on everything and this is no exception. It is a little spicy, which is different, but I don’t mind. Could be used as a daily driver it’s nothing crazy. Energy is good and there’s no crash for me. Will probably order another bottle when I’m done with this one.
Really enjoyed this one. Great product to be used as a stim junkie daily driver. No illicit ingredients, but it provided a quick and long lasting burst of energy.
Gave me almost 3 good hours in the gym and had me pushing through sets even when I was close falling over.
Flavor was fine. Good focus, but the star of the show here is the energy. Pretty strong product, but nothing over the top and no crash.
Only bought a sample, but will definitely be purchasing a bottle when I am in need of another bottle of preworkout.
Not a big fan of this one. I saw a lot of hype around this pwo and decided to give it a shot. The energy provided was decent, there was some slight mood elevation, it was pretty clean feeling. Didn’t provide much in the way of mood elevation or pumps.
It wasn’t a bad experience, but nothing to write home about especially considering some of the hype around the product that I saw.
There are many other products I would try and go back to before coming back to this one. Flavor is fine, just overall a whatever experience at 1 and 1.5 scoops.
This is a different kind of preworkout experience. It’s offers crazy tunnel vision focus and good energy. A little bit of a cracked out feeling a few hours after taking it.
The flavor is solid and the workout I had was great. The focus is unlike any other supplement I’ve taken and it feels like you’re in your own little bubble.
Super illicit and “high” feeling so it’s not something I would take more than once or twice a month, but worth it to have in the rotation if it’s something you want to try.
I wouldn’t say it exactly lives up to the hype (I have only tried the 6/26 batch and not the older ones) but it’s definitely got something going for it.
This is what preworkout is all about! I wish I could take this everyday. This is currently my favorite preworkout that I’ve ever consumed.
It’s got it all. Great focus, amazing energy, pumps are what you make them, truly one of the goat preworkouts.
Flavor is okay nothing horrific and that’s all that matters. Offers a great mood elevation and energy that lasts all day. I didn’t experience much of a crash, but I would say it’s decently illicit feeling.
Not to be used by beginners and absolutely not a daily driver. Hope this baby stays around for the long run.
Really solid for a daily driver. Only 5 ingredients that are nicely dosed. I used a few bottles of this before I went full stim junkie. It’s a clean energy that gets the job done.
Nothing too much for mood elevation and there’s a little bit of focus, but it’s mostly just good energy that gets you through your everyday workout.
Flavors are not my favorite, but again who cares it’s doable and not gonna leave you feeling sick.
No crash or anything negative, Alani has good clean products.
Solid pumps. Good flavor that’s easy to drink. I usually only need to take one scoop of this and stack it with the pwo of the days. The flavor is easy to mix with any pwo, but who cares!
Has a good nootropic blend and adds to the focus of any preworkout. Probably can be taken alone as it has all of the necessary ingredients, but I have never tried it alone.
I wouldn’t say that the pumps are skin tearing, but this definitely works as a pump formula and I will be purchasing again.
Lots of energy with the different caffeine sources and then the dynamine. endurance from the rhodioprime. mediocre pump since there’s only two pump ingredients. i’d say these ingredients add good blood flow to the formula rather than pump inducing. Stack with a pump product if you’re looking for a splitting pump. I can feel all the ingredients which tells me its from good sources. I mainly use this for legs and/or heavy back day. Flavor is awesome. LAP has amazing flavors; sometimes sweet to heavy sweet but I drink supps for their benefits not their tastiness.
Overall (decent): An okay/acceptable preworkout. It gave me as much energy as a couple of energy drinks, decent pump, and tingles. Personally didn’t feel any enhanced focus or strength. It still works better than your average ON/C4/Redcon/Ghost/Cup of coffee, but for the premium price, there are better options, thankfully I got it as a gift.
Taste (really good): Strawberry. I wish this pre would be as effective as it tastes and smells, It’s actually the best tasting pre I’ve ever had, extremely extremely smooth and it mixes really well . If you decide to try it, hopefully you are lucky and it works wonders for you, and you’re able to look forward to drinking your pre-workout. I’m actually annoyed that it tastes so good.
If I could get it on a sale for around $30-$40 I’d probably grab it because it gives more energy than anything at those price points and it tastes amazing. I’ve only had the Strawberry.
Overall (Amazing): The best Pre-Workout I’ve. Gives energy to workout longer, focus, strength, happy to be lifting, and confidence to push heavier.
From my experience with many other Pre-Workouts you usually feel them kicking, but with Gorilla High-Stim, it’s smooth, and next thing you just know it’s ON. I feel like the blend and ratio of the ingredients were just perfectly balanced and I have friends that would 100% agree.
Taste (Meh): I’ve only ever had the Blue Raspberry and I hate taking it. It’s not disgusting, but I definitely don’t enjoy it and don’t look forward to tasting it. While most preworkouts taste sucks and some are somewhat tasteful/enjoyable, Gorilla High-Stim sucks hard. Dry scooping helps, but I wouldn’t recommend more than one scoop at a time or if you’re not used to dry scooping. I’d say just mix it with as little water as possible and chug and have something to wash it down and munch on something to get that taste out of your mouth. But as I said before this is still my favorite Pre-Workout.
Sad that it was discontinued for unknown reasons, but GorillaMind has been dumbing down all their products trying to appeal to the mass. I’m glad I got a solid stock before it sold out. Hopefully, they bring it back.
Great product. Was going to just run it and write up a quick review but I really enjoyed it so ran it a second day in a row. Much the same results for lower and upper workouts. I’m a fan of V1’s formulas and was not let down. Was surprised it held up well to what I threw at it seeing I’m looking for different things on different days; this has good versatility